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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:14 pm    Post subject: Taking shelter of guru Reply with quote

The first limb of bhakti is to take shelter of guru:

Visvanatha Cakravarti says in Madhurya-kadambini verse 2.6 :

tataś cāśrita-guru-caranasya tasya jijñāsyamāna-sad-ācārasya tac-chikSayaiva
sajātīyāśaya-snigdha-bhakty-abhijña-sādhu-saGga-bhāg-yodayaH.


"After attaining faith, one takes shelter of a guru and inquires about proper devotional behavior (sad-ācāra). Then, in accordance with the guru’s directions, one attains the fortune of associating with sadhus who are endowed with a similar mood, are affectionate and highly realized in devotional matters."

some commented:

Now where did that faith come from?
It came from Krsna in the heart (Caitya-guru) just like he says in the Gita,
"I make his faith steady so that he may worship..."


But the evidence presented for Caitya-guru as the giver of transcendental faith – shraddha is not quite proper, because the verse says:

yo yo yāḿyāḿ tanuḿ bhaktaḥ śraddhayārcitum icchati |
tasya tasyācalāḿ śraddhāḿ tāmeva vidadhāmy aham ||
(BG.7.21)

Whatever devotee with faith (bhaktaḥ śraddhaya) in some demigod desires to worship him, I surely make his faith steady (acalāḿ śraddhāḿ ).

This verse doesn’t say that Krishna is the direct giver of the faith. From this verse one can see that previously there was a desire of the bhakta,
and a faith which the bhakta had independently from Krishna’s desire.
Krishna only helps the devotee making his faith stronger, which is something else.

Now, where the transcendental faith come from? In Brihan Naradia Purana 4.33 it is said:

bhaktis tu bhagavad bhakta saGgena parijAyate |
sat-saGga prApyate pumbhiH sukRtaiH pUrva saJcite ||
(Brihan Naradia Purana 4.33)

The inclination for devine devotion is awakened by the association with the devottes of the Lord
And the association with the pure devotees (SAT SANGA)
can be attained by the accumulated effect of SUKRITI (eternal pious activities) performed over uncountable life times.


The meaning is that the desires appear due to one’s association.
And every one gets the association one deserves,
i.e. as a reaction of one’s previous deeds, and Krishna is not responsible for our deeds.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Commentary of Srila Ananta Das Babaji zu Visvanatha Cakravarti's Madhurya-kadambini verse 2.6 :

tataś cāśrita-guru-caranasya tasya jijñāsyamāna-sad-ācārasya tac-chikSayaiva
sajātīyāśaya-snigdha-bhakty-abhijña-sādhu-saGga-bhāg-yodayaH.


"After attaining faith, one takes shelter of a guru and inquires about proper devotional behavior (sad-ācāra). Then, in accordance with the guru’s directions, one attains the fortune of associating with sadhus who are endowed with a similar mood, are affectionate and highly realized in devotional matters."


Piyusha-kana Vyakhya:
Jiva Goswami explains that taking shelter of the spiritual master is a second sadhu sanga, for the awakening of faith, or a belief in the purport of the scriptures, arises out of an earlier contact with devotees and hearing from them. After such faith has awakened, and one realizes that devotional service is one’s only duty in life, then one takes shelter of a genuine guru and receives instructions about the various devotional practices
(ādau prathame sādhu-sanga-śāstra-śravana-dvārā śraddhā tad-artha-viśvāsah. tatah prathamānantaram dvitīyah sādhu-sango bhajana-rīti-śikSā-nibandhanah || Durgama-sangamanī 1.4.15).

The sum and substance of this is that the devotional scriptures have said that taking shelter of a spiritual master is the doorway into the temple of devotion. The spiritual master is the helmsman on the ferry that crosses the ocean of material suffering, and there is no other method of crossing that ocean or attaining bhakti. The Bhagavatam says as much:
tasmād gurum prapadyeta jijñāsuh śreya uttamam
śābde pare ca nisnātam brahmany upaśamāśrayam
(Bhag. 11.3.21)

"Therefore, a person anxious to know the ultimate good in life should take shelter of a guru. The guru should be expert in explaining the Vedic scriptures and other texts like the Bhagavatam which reveal the essence of Vedas. He should also have transcendental realization of the Personality of Godhead, meaning that he should be devoted to him."

Without being expert in scriptures, the guru cannot remove the doubts of a disciple.
If his faith is weak and he is not absorbed in the Absolute Truth, he cannot infuse the disciple with spiritual realization.
He should be free from flaws like lust and anger, and should thus be in a state of supreme peace.

To summarize: whoever gains faith through the grace of a saint and desires to take shelter of a genuine guru should seek a saint with the following qualifications:

He should be fully versed in the Vedas and in scriptures that outline the Vedic purport, like the devotional scripture Srimad Bhagavatam. He should be able to destroy the disciple’s doubts with unshakable logic.

He should have unswerving faith and be fixed in his worship of the Lord, through which he has attained realizations of the Lord.

He should have received the mercy-potency of the Lord which has given him direct experience of God, and he should similarly be able to infuse that power within his disciples.

He should not be overcome by lust, anger and greed.

Any saintly devotee who has such qualifications is a genuine guru.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:23 pm    Post subject: Sri Krishna Bhajanamrita Reply with quote

Sri Krishna Bhajanamrita

by Srila Narahari Sarkara Thakur

"Narahari was the fortieth (branch of the Caitanya tree)."


Verse 43

Amongst all of the Vaisnavas the initiating guru (diksa-guru) and instructing guru (siksa-guru) are special.

Verse 44

It is proper to offer these two special respect.

Verse 45

Amongst all of the other spiritual masters these two (diksa-guru and siksa-guru) spiritual masters' orders are to be followed.

Verse 46

If one's initiating spiritual master and instructing spiritual master are of small spiritual potency, or in other words, if they do not poses a special power to give spiritual instruction on worship for devotional service, then one may listen from the mouth of other great advanced Vaisnavas and understand the special instructions. However, thereafter, the disciple must go t his spiritual master for his confirmation or instructions.

Verse 47

One should not disobey the order of the spiritual master.

Verse 48

Just as a faithful son may go out for earning money and subsequently brings to his father the wealth gained, later the son may ask for some allowance from the father and whatever he receives form the father he is entitled to spend of his own enjoyment. Similarly, a disciple may hear instructions from another advanced Vaisnava but after gaining that good instruction he must bring it and present it to his own spiritual master. After presenting them, he should hear the same teachings from his spiritual master with appropriate instructions.

Verse 49

If the son earns money but does not give it to the father and instead, directly enjoys the wealth, he is considered to be a fallen son and a sinful person. Similarly a disciple who listens to the words of other Vaisnavas, even if their instructions are proper and true, but does not reconfirm these teachings with his own spiritual master and instead directly personally accepts these instructions, is considered a bad disciple and a sinner.

Verse 50

For this reason, in all circumstances all Vaisnava are offered respect like of offers respect to one's spiritual master. However, with body, mind and words one serves one's own spiritual master.

Verse 51

Even if the performance of ones's devotional activities one has disobeyed the spiritual master, still one should not give him up, but should remain faithfully with him, because all authorities say that the shelter of one's own spiritual master is best and perfect (even if another spiritual master is more powerful).

Verse 52

Kindly understand this example: Just as one respects one's father as a guru, his (the father's)
older and younger brothers are also similarly respected, but nonetheless, the father is worthy of the most respect. Not withstanding the above, if the father's guru, even if he is family related, comes, one should double the respect, as he is the spiritual father of the father, or the guru of the guru. He is offered twice the puja or respect. This behavior if recognized as appropriate by all authorities.

Verse 53

Just as if, during daily life, the brothers (older or younger) of the father criticize him, still one takes shelter of one's father, similarly, one remains under the shelter of one's own spiritual master, even if he is criticized by his older or younger god brothers. Just as one depends upon one's father for one's livelihood, one must depend upon the strength of the spiritual master for advancing in devotional service.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sri Krishna Bhajanamrita

by Srila Narahari Sarkara Thakur

"Narahari was the fortieth (branch of the Caitanya tree)."

Verse 54

If a father or spiritual master or husband are not possessed of outstanding qualities even then they are always worshipable.

Verse 55

Taking shelter of the above-mentioned persons one may even disagree with those senior to oneself.

Verse 56

In this world, what kind of person is there who can remain alive at the expense of his father's or guru's defamation or disgrace?

Verse 57

Everyone considers that if their spiritual master is very powerful then he himself is powerful but that if his spiritual master is less powerful, then he is, therefore weaker, and according to the attitude of the spiritual master the disciple gains the same attributes. Those disciples who are intelligent can understand the desires of the spiritual master directly through their intelligence. Other disciples, who are less intelligent, understand by directly hearing instructions from the spiritual master. These activities are being practiced since time immemorial.

Verse 58

Learned Vaisnava authorities say that these instructions are the perfection of religiosity.

Verse 59

If the spiritual master commits a wrongful act breaking Vaisnava regulatative principles then in that case one should in a solitary place, confront him for his rectification using logic and appropriate conclusions from sadhu, sastra and guru references, but one is not to give him up.

Verse 60

One should not be hesitant or fearful because one is confronting or challenging a spiritual master.
"For it has been prescribed that one must appropriately discipline even a spiritual master who is:
*bewildered about what he should or shouldn't do; *who is inexperienced or ignorant:
*who has deviated from the Krsna conscious path; *or if he is bewildered by false pride."


Verse 61

This statement of the revealed scriptures is applicable at all times and under all circumstances.

Verse 62

The natural behavior of the Vaisnava devotees is to take complete refuge of Lord Sri Krishna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, accepting Him as their principal and real shelter. The very life
of the Vaisnava devotees of the Lord is singing the glories or Lord Sri Krsna, describing and expanding the fame of Lord Sri Krsna, and discussing the nectar of His transcendental pastimes.


Verse 63

The authorized course of action is to continue, as before, with one's prescribed devotional service. One may take guidance through or instructions from the Vaisnavas, as all Vaisnavas are considered guru or "spiritual master," or one may use one's own intelligence, duly considering the relevant instructions from sadhu, sastra and guru. In all cases one should continue in one's devotional service.

Verse 64

However, if the spiritual master:
*acts envious towards 'isvarebrantah', that which is connected with the Supreme;
*is bewildered regarding the Supreme Personality ofGodhead;
*is averse to expanding the fame of Lord Krsna;
*personally refuses to accept hearing or chanting about the glorious pastimes of Lord Sri Krsna;
*has become totally bewildered, listening to the false praise of ignorant persons and day by day is more materially contaminated and fallen___
then the spiritual master must be renounced.

Verse 65

Under those circumstances one should not doubt, "How can I give up my spiritual master?" With a strong desire for achieving spontaneous devotional service and attaining the lotus feet of Lord Krsna, the
Supreme Personality of Godhead, a devotee accepts the shelter of a spiritual master, if that spiritual master takes on "asuric" qualities or a demoniac mentality then it is one's duty to reject such a demon
"asura" guru and in his place accept a Krsna conscious spiritual master and worship him.

Verse 66

By taking shelter of the strength of the Krsna conscious spiritual master's devotional service the ill effects or contamination of the demoniac previous spiritual master is counteracted and destroyed. These activities are recommended by all Vaisnava authorities as the authorized conclusions of the sastra.

Verse 67

During the pastimes of Lord Sri Krsna Caitanya Mahaprabhu there have been many practical examples of the above. This concludes the deliberation and final conclusions of sadhu ,sastra on guru on the spiritual master and related matters.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:

But what i wanted to know is:
reading the divine lilas,
chanting the holy name and
trying my best to understand the principles of divine love prohibited from me since i have no guru?

I understand taking shelter of Guru is first but if i continue my practice until i meet my Guru is this okay?



Well…
Lila is your guru,
the holy name is your guru,
the principles of divine love are your guru.
Your sadhana is your guru.
You sharpen your intelligence, and someday you will find someone to link you a particular associate of Lord Gauranga, through his guru-parampara.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:58 am    Post subject: Your Guru Reply with quote

Dandavats pranams, dear Anadi,

your writings are helping me a lot, thank you.

sorry if i'm beenig indiscreet, but i'd like to know who is your guru.


Jaya Radhe
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